In every country that legalised Euthanasia, there was a marked drop off in palliative care funding over time and not just a drop off to match Euthanasia rates but a drop off in real terms often significantly. It is about the Neo Liberal/ Capitalist world we live in. I wrote a 3 page submission against quoting some fairly disturbing statistics.įor me this is not about religion, fear or anything else. I found there were many reasons not to support Euthanasia and few (though very significant ones) to support it. Like others, I thought – your life your choice, die with dignity etc and then I read something that made me sit up and think, Maybe I should look at this before glibly settling on a view. Oddly enough Greywarbler, I did a ton of research on euthanasia before the referendum. Ladies’ Probus Club – Find a Live Well Service We also have a speaker in once a month covering different topics. Meeting of retired ladies for companionship and coffee. And all have must do a short curse (Freudian slip) but then a course, covering the topics and understandings we need to have, young and also old – who may be surprised at how much has changed and happened since their school days, and which has passed them by! And not be like the Masons who are picky and the Rotarians who try to get a spread of professions but still narrow, or inclined to be rather frivolous as in this listing on google for the UK Probus group womens part (I think that the movement for votes for women and personal rights to property started in the UK, byt seems to have got a bit soppy like a wet lacy handkerchief.)ĭescription. It all sounds too hard but we need to do it. That is after the question is asked – what do other people you know or have heard or read abut say are the problems? That means you have to think about all those nut cases who just might have one point right.
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What we need is all to acquire some skills in listening and understanding other people, being willing to give and take, what limitations we face in actuality, and how to set things down on paper setting out the problems which everyone agrees on. They would vote and push some things through but when problems occur as they will, and many would be chronic ones, they would think oh hell there is no answer and just want to die in larger numbers. But I don’t see that dropping the voting age to 16 would help. Have you ever heard anything other than offensive bullshit out of a 70 year olds mouth? I want to see 16 and 17 year olds get the vote, but I also believe that we should give time to exploring capping the voting age at 70.
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Seeing as 16 and 17 year olds will be living with the climate crisis and inequality rigged system adults keep imposing upon them, shouldn’t they have a say in that process?
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I’ve met a lot more stupid and cruel adults than I have teenagers in my life. …ummmmm, couldn’t a whole bunch of adults fall into the exact same categories that Kate feels bans you from voting? The numbers of young people not attending school is up, we have problems with literacy, and as many Police will tell you, issues with respect from youth who don’t even know how to be a part of a civilised society, far less make an educated vote on it. And on that note, surely the priority for young people should be re-engaging them with school and teaching them how to contribute to a civilised society, over and above giving them the right to vote? Many as we know, are just out ram raiding, or wagging school. Yes many may be bright and astute, but many are not. They’re not raising families, they’re not paying bills, they’re not awash with life experience.
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They don’t have mortgages and hold down full time jobs by and large.
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The funniest criticism against lowering the voting age was vomited up by privileged ZB Troll Kate Hawkesby…īut they lack the experience.